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From: "Jim Spath (Webmaster Jim)" <jspath@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us>
Subject: Re: New Kermit Tech Support Policies
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On 5 Nov 1995, Leslie Mikesell wrote:
> In article <47g68a$rj2@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu>,
> Frank da Cruz <fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu> wrote:
> >Anybody who wants to obtain Kermit software (other than Kermit 95) for
> >their own use can just ftp it from Columbia or, if they are not on the
> >net, they can order it from us.
> OK, assume that someone out in the country has ...
> (case 1) that they have only DOS (no windows)
Give (not sell) them a diskette. That's how many of us got started.
> (case 2) they have an "unbundled" unix distribution which doesn't
> include a compiler and can't include kermit
Give them a disk/tape/etc. with compiled kermit. Columbia has
many binaries available (I got mine for SCO there).
> case 3) they have a full unix distribution but no ftp access.
Same as 2.
> >Or they can go to a store and buy it
> >(MS-DOS Kermit or Kermit 95).
> Where would I look in Coshocton, Ohio?
In a BOOK store. The Kermit software is with the book.
> >Our problem is with companies that expectto be able to SELL...
> > . We lose income that we otherwise would have received.
> You lose that anyway, since anyone in their right mind will just throw
> a shareware program on a disk and mail it out. And just what is
> it that you lose, when you insist that everyone can ftp it for
> free anyway?
Some of us think Kermit is MUCH better than any other terminal program.
> >service has a serious problem in the way it treats its customers, and you
> >should be talking to them, not us -- especially if you are paying them
> >money.
> I'm saying that I can provide kermit at my end but I can't give it out
> to the people who call my machines. The result is that everyone finds
> their own software and so far I am unaware of anyone actually using
> a Columbia kermit even though it would work fine and might be free to
> them if the phase of the moon happened to be right. I just don't
> quite understand how this is a good thing for any of us.
I've been using Columbia Kermit for years. We give it to all
our users. I have the UNIX version on all my hosts. All UNIX
hosts I dial into have it. It's beyond good to be able to transfer
files among all these machines, all the way up to the mainframes
and down to my Apple //e.
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